The tape recording you are hearing now is a phone conversation between Bob Vernon and Jimmy Files' Aunt, the woman that raised Files, her name is Christine.

Christine is in her 80s and a God-fearing Christian southern woman. She was present in the old rural Alabama farm house when Jimmy was born. Before she gave me permission to tape her conversation, she informed me that the reason James Files never had a birth certificate was because he was born in a rural farmhouse, not a hospital. This explains one of the lies Files has told, that being that the CIA had erased all records on him including his birth certificate.

Files also is on record as stating:

1. He was in the military although his FBI rap sheet shows Files was in court in Chicago on the day Files said he went on active duty, July 10, 1959.

2. His ex-wife, when questioned by Kroll and Associates in 1994, told the investigator that Jimmy had a twin brother and that the twin brother was the one with her in Chicago on November 22, 1963. Files backed this up, at first, but later told us that he had told his wife to say that.

3. He wrote Christine a letter when he was in the service saying something to the effect that "the government has turned me into a killer."

4. Files said he used the name Sutton until 1963 when the name "Files" was given to him by a government agency.

The recording speaks for itself.